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00:00:00 Speaker 1
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00:00:27 Speaker 2
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00:00:51 KC Yost
Hello everyone and welcome to this episode of The Energy Pipeline Podcast. In today's episode, we'll be discussing why safety is so important in the energy industry, types of safety training, the need not only for fire protection equipment, but fire protection equipment maintenance, and other cool safety topics. Our guest is Noah Dean, business development coordinator at American Safety Services, Inc. Welcome to The Energy Pipeline Podcast, Noah.
00:01:19 Noah Dean
Thank you so much. It is an absolute honor to be here, KC.
00:01:22 KC Yost
Great to have you. Great to have you. So I've spent some time looking at your LinkedIn profile. I've looked at your book and all that kind of stuff. I mean, you're about as close to a Renaissance guy as I know. So I can see that you're a very busy person. So before we get into the discussion talking about safety, could you take a few minutes to tell our listeners about all the stuff that you have going on please?
00:01:46 Noah Dean
Well, KC, I appreciate the kind words. I've never been referred to as a Renaissance guy so I do appreciate that, but I am busy. I think probably the thing I'm most proud of is my family. I've got a wife and two children here outside of Odessa, Texas. And I don't know the diversity of your listeners, KC, but a lot of people don't understand what Odessa, Texas is and I'll just refer to Friday Night Lights I'll say. Have you ever heard of Friday Night Lights? And-
00:02:15 KC Yost
There you go.
00:02:15 Noah Dean
Of course they'll say yes and I say, "That's where I live." But yeah. I'm a family guy. Like you mentioned, I lead the marketing teams and business development teams here at American Safety Services. I published my first book in December of 2022. I'm at the tail end of a second one, hoping to have that completed in a few weeks. I have a podcast as well. I own a small metal fabrication company where I do welding and obviously fabrication, things of that nature, and a few other things, but I think that's going to summarize it for now I guess.
00:02:48 KC Yost
Oh, yeah. Let's see. The college athlete, the professor.
00:02:53 Noah Dean
Yeah.
00:02:54 KC Yost
And you've got that Aggie connection with your Ph. D., right doctor?
00:02:59 Noah Dean
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I have a doctorate from Texas A & M. Gig'Em Aggie's. I actually started my academia journey in studying kinesiology. I thought I would be a coach and I ended up being a professor, assistant professor at a small university called Texas Lutheran University in Seguin, Texas. And like so many people, KC, I was lured to the oil field and that was, oh I don't know, a dozen or so years ago, but yeah. Being a professor was fun. It was quite the change going from that to the oil fields for sure.
00:03:35 KC Yost
Seguin's a beautiful little town. I like it quite a bit. And the campus is quite nice there at Texas Lutheran.
00:03:44 Noah Dean
Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:03:45 KC Yost
I had a friend whose grandson actually played football there 20-some-odd years ago.
00:03:50 Noah Dean
Very good.
00:03:51 KC Yost
Nice spot. Nice spot. Well, cool. Well tickled to have you on. Very good. So I've shared this story once before and it's not the energy industry, but it is civil engineering. I'm a civil engineer, graduated in 1976 from West Virginia University, and I was a member of the ASCE student chapter and we would take these field trips each year down to the New River Gorge. If you've ever seen the West Virginia Quarter, on the back side of the quarter is the New River Gorge Bridge. It's really a big thing to shut down the bridge and they do base jumping off the bridge and all that kind of stuff, but they shut it down one day a year. It's big party and really pretty cool, pretty cool. Anyway. During construction, I remember distinctly, and every time I have a safety discussion I want to share this, back then, this was the late '60s, early '70s, the field engineer that was out there and would give us this tour, I remember my senior year him talking about how excited he was about their safety record. They had anticipated that X, I can't remember the number now, maybe 10 people would die during the construction of this bridge. And he was proud to say that they were three quarters of the way done or 80% of the way done and only five people had died during the construction of the bridge.
00:05:29 Noah Dean
That's crazy.
00:05:31 KC Yost
And to think of that's how safety was looked at 50 years ago. Throughout the United States in civil engineering construction or pipeline construction or energy construction or whatever the case may be, that was the approach that we had back then. Now we've come light years from where they are. Right?
00:05:54 Noah Dean
Oh yeah.
00:05:57 KC Yost
To the point where if someone has a recordable, that's a real problem in our industry today. So we've come light year. So anyway. So let's get to it. So let's talk to you as the expert. Why is safety so important in the energy industry today?
00:06:15 Noah Dean
Well that's a great question and full disclosure, I think that my eyes are isolated, not to the entire energy sector, but probably the oil and gas industry and I apologize, KC, but I will try to answer that question and I think that the most blunt answer is because the numbers aren't zero. And that kind of references your story, KC. Until we are at zero where we have zero fatalities, zero injuries, zero recordables as you said, there's work to be done and that's why it's so important. I think you could start a really interesting discussion if you wanted to based on what you brought up between mathematics and morals about allotting for deaths to happen on a project. But here in this day and time, especially from someone who's in the safety sector of the industry, anything above zero is a problem and I'd like to think we can work towards that number for sure.
00:07:17 KC Yost
So do you have any thought, and I know this is kind of going down the rabbit hole, but do you have any idea why and how we got from being excited that only five men had died on that bridge construction to where we are today? Did people just finally wake up and say, "Enough is enough," or was it because of lawsuits or is it a moral issue? Do you have a feel for why we are, I mean, it's a good thing.
00:07:47 Noah Dean
You know what? Listen, I don't know, but I would hope that it's a moral issue. It probably has to do more with money with lawsuits, like you said. But you know what? Either way I'm going to take it and I think it's a good thing that we're headed in the direction of wanting fewer and fewer people to be at risk and to be injured. So God, that's a loaded question, KC. You're asking good ones already out of the gate here, but I don't know. I don't know if it's morality or money, but either way, we're heading in the right direction.
00:08:18 KC Yost
You know, as long as we head in the right direction, I applaud the arrangement.
00:08:24 Noah Dean
Yeah.
00:08:25 KC Yost
I just think of those days as the dark ages. But from where we've come, I'm just one of those few people I think that have kind of watched the metamorphosis in the industry and we talk oil and gas. We can be specific about that and talk about that. So correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that one of the biggest causes of any kind of injury today in the oil and gas industry comes from, dare I say, complacency. Getting-
00:09:06 Noah Dean
You know what? Yeah.
00:09:07 KC Yost
Getting too comfortable with what we're doing and the repetition and all of that and you become a robot and you don't think things through and all of that. This was the explanation given to me by an old buddy of mine saying, "This is why we require safety training to take place every couple of years or every six months or whatever the case may be." So is that what you're saying, that it's basically getting in to refresh and get you back up to speed and what do you see are the types of training typically required for the fields and you focus in West Texas and Southeastern New Mexico, right?
00:09:59 Noah Dean
Yes.
00:09:59 KC Yost
And so-
00:09:59 Noah Dean
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
00:10:01 KC Yost
What kind of training do you see your clients requesting and requiring and what frequency?
00:10:08 Noah Dean
Well let me do this. Can I go back and address a word that you used real quick?
00:10:12 KC Yost
Sure.
00:10:13 Noah Dean
You used a great word and you used the word complacency, KC, and I just want to touch on that briefly before I get to the second part of your question. So I have a presentation that I'll sometimes give to people and I bring up something called the speed accuracy trade-off. And what that references, just in general and this actually comes back from my days as a kinesiologist, is that the faster we move, the less accurate we tend to be. And I've taken that principle, that idea, that phenomenon if you will and when you look at the oil and gas industry, you're correct, KC, because people, over time, they become desensitized to certain aspects of the industry, they become complacent as you said, and they sacrifice speed for accuracy, meaning they want to get this job done sooner, they want to get it done faster, they want to what have you, but they want to get it done quickly and of course, they sacrifice accuracy, specifically they put themselves more at risk than they should. There are rarely, rarely accidents that I come across that I see where there wasn't some sort of protocol in place to prevent that accident. There are SOPs out the wazoo in the oil and gas industry.
00:11:27 KC Yost
Right. Right. Right.
00:11:28 Noah Dean
Yeah. We become complacent and it's human nature and to address the second part of your question, KC, yes, that's why we have frequencies of, not just the training, but of the meetings. We have tailgate meetings daily on location to go over safety issues. They fill out JSAs daily to address those. So we try to prevent that complacency, but nonetheless, it does happen. So I apologize for rambling on, KC, but I'll get down to your next question. So we here at American Safety, we offer a lot of training classes, a lot. I think three dozen different training classes in our training center and even though we call it a training center, it's almost more like a small university, but CPR and First Aid, KC, are big ones, obviously fire extinguisher training, H2S training. If you've been in the oil and gas industry for longer than three minutes, you know what H2S is. SafeLand, Basin United, confined space training, FIT testing forklift, and I could go on and I apologize, but those are just a few and they range between an annual certification. For example, fire extinguisher training is one year. FIT testing is one year. The lockout tag out training is one year. And they range up to indefinite. Aerial man lift is three years. Forklift training is three years, but technically, SafeLand is indefinite. But your major companies, honestly KC, they'll have their own mandate and they say, "No. We'll require some of these more often than what is technically required by the governing entity."
00:13:06 KC Yost
Gotcha.
00:13:07 Noah Dean
I apologize. I went off on-
00:13:09 KC Yost
No, no. No, no. This is all good. So let's talk about Basin United. Again, we're talking about the Permian if we will, right?
00:13:19 Noah Dean
Yes.
00:13:19 KC Yost
And so here in Houston, we were talking before we started recording, we've got, as I recall, back when I was getting out in the field quite regularly, the Gulf Coast Safety Council, which was basically a bunch of the refineries and plants around the Houston Ship Channel and Gulf Coast and all saying, "All right. This is the basic course. Come in here for a day or two days worth of training to get up to speed on this level." And then when you go into the Shell Refinery or anything down in Deer Park or La Porte or Texas City or wherever, then you would have your site specific training. So is that the same philosophy as what you talked about? You mentioned Basin United, is that pretty much everyone saying, "These are the basics that we need to cover."
00:14:22 Noah Dean
You know what? I think you worded that well, KC. Now what's interesting, and I need to be careful with the way I word this. Yes, the Permian Basin is the oil and gas industry just like you'd find in the Dakotas, Pennsylvania, and what have you. But in many ways, it's its own entity and only those who have really experienced it can understand what I'm talking about and I think a lot of the operators recognize that. And so a few years ago, some of your majors came together and they created something called Basin United. It is specific to a large degree to the Permian Basin. And when I say majors, I mean it was your majors. I think the executive committee was like people from Pioneer, Halliburton, Oxy, Plains, Chevron, and there were other subcommittees, but it's like you said, KC, how can we come together to put together a basic program that is going to push the idea of safety into this industry into this part of the world? And it comes, just so you know, there's two parts of the Basin United. There's day one, which is what we call fundamentals and day two, which is tailored more towards leadership, KC. So if you're going to manage someone out in the field, you're going to manage people, that might be more suited for day two people in leadership at Basin United. And people have compared it to SafeLand, PEC SafeLand, which I'm okay with that. But again, it's a little bit more specific to the Permian. And one thing that's cool about the way that we, I can't speak for everyone who teaches it, but one thing that's cool about American Safety, you mentioned a hands-on portion with the train that you talked about. Technically, Basin United doesn't have an in the field hands-on training, but we do get very creative with the way that we teach Basin United and we run people through hypothetical scenarios and really push the boundaries of what it means to, for example, use a Stop Work Authority, things of that nature, so that when they get out in the field, they can apply the basics of safety in real time in a real situation.
00:16:21 KC Yost
Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Well, oh, probably four or five years ago I did spend a lot of time in Pecos. So I know what you talk about. The biggest takeaway I had in my time out in Pecos in West Texas was be sure to put your ball a little bit back in your stance so that the ball stays under the wind as you're hitting your driver.
00:16:45 Noah Dean
There you go. So yeah. You've been out here.
00:16:48 KC Yost
Bad joke. Bad joke. Actually my-
00:16:50 Noah Dean
It's okay.
00:16:51 KC Yost
My first trip out to that area was the old Salt Creek Field that was owned by Mobile around Post, Texas.
00:17:01 Noah Dean
Yeah.
00:17:01 KC Yost
I remember we used to have to stay in Snyder because there was no hotel in Post back in the early and mid-'80s. But that's where we got some H2S exposure as well. So I assume that that's really pretty important for everyone out there, the H2S training, right?
00:17:21 Noah Dean
Oh, paramount. Paramount. KC, it's hard to stress how dangerous that stuff really is. And I tell you what. Yeah. Complacency can kill when it comes to H2S.
00:17:36 KC Yost
Sure.
00:17:36 Noah Dean
For sure.
00:17:37 KC Yost
Absolutely. Absolutely. I remember being clean-shaven and all of that in order to handle all of that. The other things that you mentioned, confined space, always a very critical issue. How do you deal with confined space? I suspect that you guys also have competent people for ditch and ditch wall shoring and that type of thing. That's always critical to be able to identify the class of soil, to decide what kind of shoring you need to have, if you need to have any or whether you can step back the ditching and all of that kind of stuff.
00:18:17 Noah Dean
Yeah.
00:18:17 KC Yost
Right?
00:18:18 Noah Dean
You know about that more than I do. You've got 47 years in the pipeline sector, don't you?
00:18:24 KC Yost
Well actually in June it became 48, but fair enough.
00:18:29 Noah Dean
Hey, congratulations, KC. Yeah. Well with that aspect, the trenching and the digging, we do have a class on that, but we have real-world application of rescue teams when it comes to that kind of stuff, confined space. We've got an entire division of the company that specializes in rescue. So yeah. That's pretty neat.
00:18:46 KC Yost
Well that's good. That's good. Let's talk about rescue teams for a little bit.
00:18:53 Noah Dean
Okay.
00:18:54 KC Yost
At the end of the day, I remember when I was spending some time in Iraq, the military was telling me something to the effect about frequency versus magnitude. To have small frequency things happen with low magnitude effects are fine, but all you have to have is that low frequency, massive effect that gets you back on your heels and that type of thing. And to me, that's the logic, to have a team ready to come and help when you need help. You don't want it to happen, but you have to plan for it to happen if it does happen. So tell us about rescue teams.
00:19:47 Noah Dean
I'm really glad you brought that up. So basically, anytime there's a chance that a person needs to be rescued, there needs to be some sort of rescue protocol and that's where we come into play. It could be anything from a single person watching a person work in an IDLH atmosphere that may need to be drag rescued if they were to pass out or go down. And it may be incredibly elaborate where you have a team inside of a vessel and we've got mechanical advantage like davit arms and tripods and ropes and pulleys and multiple people. So it can be very simple or it can be very complex, but either way, KC, the point is, the best way to keep someone from dying is to get them out of a dangerous situation as soon as possible.
00:20:28 KC Yost
Right.
00:20:28 Noah Dean
And I think that's the crux of what our rescue team is for and we take that very serious. There's a man who works for us by the name of Wally Suarez and he spent I think close to 20 years in law enforcement and he came in, KC, and he took that same diligence, that professionalism, that structure, and really built up our rescue division and they specialize in rescue, like I said, in IDLH atmosphere, confined spaces, scaffolding, rig rescue. It's actually pretty cool what they've done, but yeah. We're trying to save lives. And like you said, high frequency and if we have high frequency, hopefully we have low magnitude situations.
00:21:09 KC Yost
Right. Right. Right, right. So are your teams comparable, if you will, in your area to what I've heard of Texas rescue team number one and Texas rescue team number two I think? I think one of the teams had the dogs and they actually went to the World Trade Center to try and help up there and they do hurricanes, this, that, and the other. Is this your version on a smaller scale of what these guys do?
00:21:43 Noah Dean
You know, I'm really hesitant to answer that question directly because I don't want to compare our rescue teams in the oil field to the people of the towers and so forth, but the best way that I word it is I say that we have the Navy SEALs of the Permian Basin. That's what I tell people. Of the oil and gas industry I say, "We have the guys who are going to come in there who are going to be diligent, professional, they're going to have protocols, they're going to be systematic, and they're going to give your guys, the people on location, the best chance of survival." So you kind of caught me off guard, KC, with how to word that because we don't have dogs.
00:22:19 KC Yost
I get it. I get it. But you guys are ready to rock and roll anytime you need to.
00:22:22 Noah Dean
Absolutely.
00:22:22 KC Yost
And very cool. Very cool. All right. Super, super. So fire protection.
00:22:29 Noah Dean
Okay.
00:22:31 KC Yost
I love these guys who actually, and some engineers, as they're designing facilities get to the point where they're worried about redundancy and fire protection, the foam and this, that, and the other and the fire extinguishers and all that kind of stuff, but then I've often wondered, once the facility is built, are they maintained? How do you check to make sure that they still work and that type of thing? It's one thing to have it, but at some point in time, doesn't a fire extinguisher lose its capability?
00:23:06 Noah Dean
We're going to say it loses its umph if you will.
00:23:08 KC Yost
Okay. Fair enough.
00:23:09 Noah Dean
But yeah. So I'll talk a little bit about fire when it comes to what we do, KC. I probably won't answer all of your questions, but well, first off, when it comes to fire protection, obviously we have to discuss PPE. For those of you who do not know, PPE is an acronym for personal protective equipment and the fire conversation when it comes to PPE is FR or flame resistant clothing. So we know that everyone in the oil field wears FRs. That's just part of it.
00:23:40 KC Yost
I haven't been to Pecos in a number of years, but I still have my FRCs.
00:23:44 Noah Dean
Yes, sir.
00:23:45 KC Yost
No. All set.
00:23:45 Noah Dean
Yeah. Absolutely.
00:23:47 KC Yost
Too expensive to throw away.
00:23:49 Noah Dean
Yeah. Right? Yeah. Keep them. Keep them. And if you get the right one, it's actually comfortable and looks good, but-
00:23:56 KC Yost
There you go.
00:23:57 Noah Dean
We also offer a fire watch training. So for example, if someone is going to be doing what we call hot work and location, they're going to be welding, grinding, something of that nature, we might have a person who's there to just watch. Literally they're called fire watch. They're going to make sure that a fire doesn't occur. But when it comes to what you're talking about when it comes to fire safety and suppression system of assets, yes. Fire extinguishers, one of the things we do is we sell, maintain, repair fire extinguishers and inspect them. And I challenge your listeners to do this KC. I challenge anyone listening to, when they get to work, go to their nearest fire extinguisher and I guarantee you there's a really good chance it's past inspection date KC. You'd be surprised how many fire extinguishers because of, I'll use your word, complacency, go uninspected and that can really bite people because you're right, they can lose their umph, they can lose their effectiveness, and they need to be inspected. They could lose pressure. If it's with the powder, they need to be recharged or even loosened up a little bit of course. And so yeah. They need to be looked at quite a bit. And then when it comes to suppression systems of buildings or assets out in the field, one of the things we do, KC, is we can install and inspect fire suppression systems on assets like frat pumps or hot orders. And what those do is just like a building KC, you'll detect a fire on a unit and it automatically tries to put it out. And when it comes to inspections, yeah, monthly inspections on fire extinguishers at the minimum. You need to test your fire alarm at least every six months in your facility and then, no, fire alarms annually and then inspect and make sure that the system is working properly every six months. So that's kind of the standard for fire stuff.
00:25:47 KC Yost
Okay. All right. Very good. Very cool. Very cool. Something that I found fascinating on your website that I wanted to bring up were these cooling trailers.
00:26:05 Noah Dean
Yes, sir.
00:26:06 KC Yost
You're in West Texas, 110 degrees in the shade, and you're giving Phoenix a run for their money in temperature and all that kind of stuff. So during the heat of the day, I would tell you that a mechanic down the street here that works on RVs, the way he handles this hot summer heat in Texas is that their group works from three o'clock in the morning to 11 o'clock in the morning and then they leave because they're out and exposed and that type of thing. But in the oil fields, you can't do that. So-
00:26:46 Noah Dean
Correct.
00:26:47 KC Yost
What does the industry do to help take care of their employees when they're out in the middle of nowhere?
00:26:56 Noah Dean
Great question. And cooling trailer is so important and for those who don't know what a cooling trailer is, the bare bones of our cooling trailers is it's an open air trailer, meaning there's no walls, but there is a roof and we have a giant Portacool in the back. If you've seen those giant fans and it'll spray a cool mist and it sprays the mist right where people are sitting so we have two long bench seats where a person can, if they're working and they get hot, they can go sit down in the shade and have this nice cold mist cool them off to some degree. And that is just the bare bones and we have other cooling trailers, KC, where it's fully enclosed where we have a mini split inside with the air conditioner. They can get very, very cool in there, they can get rehydrated, and it's a way to keep them safe in such harsh conditions and we talked, KC, about FRs. So picture this honestly, 110 degrees, you're wearing FRs, which generally are a little heavier and it's got to be all the way, long sleeve, pants, the whole shebang.
00:27:56 KC Yost
Right.
00:27:57 Noah Dean
They might have, if they're part of a rescue team, they might have harnesses on as well.
00:28:01 KC Yost
Right.
00:28:02 Noah Dean
And when you're working for a while it doesn't take long for them to get pretty hot. So not just our employees, but the workers out in the field are working for, we try to keep them safe by periodically and systematically going into those cooling trailers. We work for one major, I won't say their name, but they are very diligent about safety in that regard. They have a protocol where they're going to work for 45 minutes and they are mandated to spend at least 10 minutes out of the remaining 15 in that hour in a cooling trailer, air conditioning places somehow and rehydrate. So it's a challenge, but the safety standard can be met and we can keep people safe if we do it right, KC, but like you said, we don't want complacency to take over and we don't want companies to sacrifice accuracy for speed or speed for accuracy rather and mess things up.
00:28:55 KC Yost
Yeah. No, I get it. I get it. I get it. And great. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that. So we talked earlier about how we got from counting how many deaths we're going to have per million dollars worth of capital expenditure to where we are today and we talked about morality, we talked about money, and to be honest, we didn't mention regulatory impacts. I mean, OSHA is a big driver in bringing all of this to the forefront. So that's kind of important. Where do you see trends going with regard to regulatory environments, federal, state, and local?
00:29:42 Noah Dean
Yeah. Man, that's a great question and I wish I could speak to that, KC. Again, I have a very, very limited perspective of that. We don't dig a lot into the regulations in the pipeline, but we very much are involved with the current OSHA standards.
00:29:57 KC Yost
Sure.
00:29:59 Noah Dean
Our safety manager, Seth, can literally recite you verbatim a lot of the safety measures when it comes to respiratory protection and things of that nature. Now I will say this though, I think that OSHA and the CDC does a really great job of communicating with one another and getting statistics out to us so that we can make the appropriate changes if needed and of course, if a change is made to a regulation, then we know about it, but I think they're headed in the right direction. And just so you know, we touched on a little bit KC. A lot of these major companies will take OSHA standards and actually make them even more robust. So I really want to say names, but I probably shouldn't, but we have several companies that we work for and we'll bring the standard to them. I'll literally show them the paper. I'll say, "This is the OSHA standard for blank, for eye protection, for respiratory protection." And they will say, "That's great, but we are going to be more strict," and we embrace that. We're very thankful for that. So as far as what's in the pipeline regulatory wise, KC, I'm sorry, I'm going to disappoint you. I don't have an elaborate answer, but I do know we try to stick to the standards.
00:31:07 KC Yost
It's good. It's good. I appreciate that. And to be honest, I've had the opportunity to work throughout the United States and I will tell you that what you're seeing in the Permian is commonplace throughout the United States where an operating company will actually have standards and protocols and SOPs in place that go above and beyond what OSHA or the federal or the state or the local regulations are. And I love to see that in an industry trend and that's fantastic. Well look, we're coming close to our time.
00:31:54 Noah Dean
Okay.
00:31:54 KC Yost
Is there anything that you would like to mention that we haven't talked about so far?
00:32:01 Noah Dean
You know, KC, I think we've covered quite a bit. I don't know what to tell you other than, man, I really want to give you thanks. Safety's important, but people have to know about it and I think you're doing a great job of really spreading the word and help pushing this idea of safety because, whether you know it or not, KC, because of your efforts, maybe some guy's going to go home and see his family that otherwise wouldn't have if you wouldn't have done this. So thank you for doing that.
00:32:28 KC Yost
Well it takes just one, right?
00:32:30 Noah Dean
Yeah.
00:32:31 KC Yost
Just one. And I think it's wonderful to see where we are today versus where we were 50 years ago, as a country, not specifically as an industry. All right. Well great. Well Noah, thanks so much for taking the time to visit with us today.
00:32:48 Noah Dean
Thank you. Yeah.
00:32:49 KC Yost
So if anyone would like to learn more about American Safety Services or any of their safety programs, you can find them on the web at americansafety.net, not .com, not.com,
00:33:02 Noah Dean
Americansafety.net. That's all you need to know.
00:33:06 KC Yost
That's right. Americansafety.net. So thanks to all of you for tuning into this episode of the Energy Pipeline Podcast sponsored by Caterpillar Oil & Gas. If you have any questions, comments, or ideas for podcast topics, feel free to email me at kc.yost@oggn.com. Also want to thank my producer, Anastasia Willis and Duff and everyone at the Oil and Gas Global Network for making this podcast possible. Find out more about other OGGN podcasts at oggn.com. This is KC Yost saying goodbye for now. Have a great week and keep that energy flowing through the pipeline.
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